An interesting conversation
An interesting conversation broke out on twitter between a co-worker @keithpitt and a user @JarZ.
@JarZ: But breaking compatibility with many, many websites by omitting flash is just silly and unnecessary, imo.
We’ll thats not the devices fault. As a web developer myself, whenever I have to use Flash I always have a fallback. Since recently everything had Flash some people got slack and didn’t set these fallbacks. It’s not the fault of the device but of the web developer, the lack of foresight and testing.
@JarZ: Because plenty of web pages are broken without flash. Even apples launch of the ipad suffered from that when showing NYT page
Suffered? I wouldn’t call a blue Lego suffering. Im pretty sure Steve knew that would happen, because they do rehearsing. Plenty are broken? Not really, plenty may have components or bits that are broken but please see the comment before regarding fallbacks.
@JarZ: but making up other excuses is bullshit. It’s not crashy/slow/etc on other mobile devices. Why is apple so different?
Sure other devices have Flash, although this being Flash Lite. Hey and you cant deny the stats. Apple reported that on Safari, most crashes were by plug-ins including Flash.
@JarZ: seriously, it’s a business decision, nothing more. Apple are welcome to make that decision on their own products.
Apple is a Business. Im sure it was a business decision. I detect a little emotion in this tweet. Probably trying to make Apple feel like this juggernaut exterminating technologies in its wake. Including Adobe in the development cycle of the devices a) would have cost more time b) meant a 3rd hand in the pie c) possible agreements and contracts which will fall through when we switch to HTML5.
@JarZ: if my n900 with its 600mhz arm coretex a8 can run flash fine, i dont see why apple can’t support it
Im sure any Apple device can handle Flash too. But that’s not the point. How often would you use Flash on a mobile device? Maybe for video, a few times a month? Well there are better and more supported methods of delivering video, one of them is HTML5. For such little use its just not worth the effort.
@JarZ: i believe the only reason that apple is not allowing flash is because it would take too many sales away from the app store
You’re absolutely correct and wrong. Yes if Flash games were on the iPhone then developers could be able to make games on Flash and distribute for free. But what if that same developer made a native iPhone app, then he/she could make money from that application. Also, from what I have read and understand about Flash (as a developer) is that it cant do multitouch, a big fail for gaming on these devices.
Im going to leave it there. Im sorry @JarZ but most of the comments are just not researched. Im sure you love Flash for video’s and such but patience will in turn reap its spoils with HTML5 coverage.
From what I can gather about this. The public want Flash for Video. Well it’s going to move from Flash to other technologies in a year or so. It’s worth the wait and why support Flash for it only to be gone in 2011?
Sites like YouTube, Vimeo, Ustream, Qik and many others all either have iPhone Applications or HTML5 alternatives that work on non-Flash devices.
